Friday, March 13, 2009

Freud or Fraud

Time to take a position! I have taken a lot of time explaining Freudian theory in much detail. Was that time well-spent? Based on the text and the article you read, tell us if you think Freud was a "fraud" and I have misused the limited time we have in Psychology. Or do you think Freudian theory is relevant still today and should continue to be an important part of any Psychology curriculum.

Post by March 17.

17 comments:

  1. I believe that Freud was a very successful psychologist
    I read the article "What Freud got right" and it focuses on how Freud was on to something.
    the article is a little hard to pull apart but at the basic standpoint it states that Freud had theories of the brain being controlled by drives and now that scientists are investigating into his theories that he was in fact on to some of the structures of the brain and that he should be respected more and looked at to psychology as Charles Darwin is to evolution.

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  2. I feel that the Freudian theory is relevant still tolday and it should be continued as an important part of any psychology cirriculum. According to the article "Psychoanalytic Therapy Wins Backing," i feel it clearly shows how his thoeries halp people out in the real world. Studies have even been done to prove that his theories did have some meaning to them. For example, "In a review of 23 studies of such treatment incolving 1,053 patients, the researchers concluded that the therapy, given as often as three times a week, in many cases for more than a year, releived symptoms of those problems significantly more than did some shorter-term therapies." That study only just proves that Frued knew what he was talikng about and what he was doing. In the Rticle Dr. Milrod says, " Let's be real, major medical centers have been shutting down psychodynamic trainings programs because there isn't an adequate evidence base." However how are we ever going to find out if it really works fi the theory isn't even experimentd on and looked at in an environment that is made for that type of experiment.

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  3. Kyoko

    After reading the article 'What Freud Got Right', I believe Sigmund Freud and theories are something worth studying in class. Whether you support or go against his theories, they have opened many doors to explore in the world of psychology.
    Though many of his theories may seem insane to many, there are doctors and researchers out there who believe Sigmund Freud was on the track to trully understand the human brain and conscience.
    Antonio Damasio, head of neurology at the University of Iowa College of Medicine once wrote “Freud’s insights on the nature of consciousness are consonant [agree with] with the most advanced contemporary neuroscience views,”

    Researchers have only started to accept, support and relate to the Freudian theories when they started to look deeper into the physical structure of the human brain, where they started to find evidence that supports his theories. What else could we relate to Freud's work, as we discover more about how our minds work?

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  4. After reading the article "What Freud Got Right", I do believe that Freud was on to something. He believed in his work and was stubborn about it because he wouldn't listen to anyone else's perspective. I agree with what Kyoko said, that Freud did open many doors into the world of psychology. Even though Freud's theories sound kind of far stretched, in todays world, many scientists still believe and go by his perspective. There are some cases where in articles, Freud's theories are being shut down but I do believe that this article really shows Freud's success throughout his years of work.

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  5. The article, “what Freud Got Right”, was what made the most sense to me about everything I learned about him. From the textbook and the lessons in class I don’t think things such as the phallic stage, latency stage and genital stage make much sense. I understand what Freud is trying to say about them but I don’t believe that they are true. In the article when it said that besides our animal instincts to seek food and avoid pain we also have two main drives such as aggression and libido. I think we should spend time talking about him but honestly, we don’t need to spend a large chunk of our time focusing on him. We could just touch some of the stages and go on in depth about his other things such as dream analysis. I don’t totally disagree with him. With everything (even us wanting to have a sexual relationship with our parents) I can see where he gets his ideas and where he is coming from, but I don’t agree with him and think all of his theories are true.

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  6. Talia...

    I absolutely do not think that Sigmund Freud was a "fraud" in any sense. I think that this article takes Mr. Freuds interpretations on childhood behaviors and makes it look more complex and erotic than it actually is. From personal observations, and reading up on Freud I think that his perceptions on what occurs during the Phallic Stage has been greatly twisted. I think that Fraud meant that during the beginning of the Anal Stage, and the middle of the Phallic stage, little boys enjoy the love and warmth that the receive from their mothers, and they are envious of their fathers for in a sense standing in the way. Then after this they strive to be like their fathers because they are envious of what their fathers have (their mother as their wife). With this said, I absolutely do not see Sigmund Freud as a "fraud." He is the greatest founder of psychology, and his ideas of childhood development and dream perceptions are truely remarkable and extremely accepted. Freuds theories are the basis of modern society, so his ideas should be an important part of Psychology. He even has his own band of followers called Freudians still today.

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  7. Talia aka the great!

    I do not agree with Brittany's ideas on Freuds Psychosexual Development being unimportant. I think that psychology would not be the same if we did not touch upon Freuds ideas. Even if you do not see how the childhood development is an important part of the ciriculum, if you stated that you want to study dreams more, then you need to take in account that Freud was the founder of dream studies and dream perceptions. So, to totally disreguard any Freudian ideas would just be foolish. Personally I think that all of his ideas are extrememly important, after further extensive research.

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  8. I cannot argue against most of what Freud has said throughout his lifetime, for it has played in integral role in my development. One point that Fred Guterl points out in "What Freud Got Right" is that "drives" lead us to do unconscious actions, meaning we don't even think about what we're doing, but rather act primitively. According to a study done on mice, a section of the brain was stimulated and the mouse was activated not to do anything specifically, but rather just "do stuff". This supports Freud's theory that man acts on instinct, and the biology is in us to support such a claim.

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  9. Nick
    I think that freud was not a fraud but infact the opposite. He came up with many of the starting paths on psychology that without some of todays branches of psychology would not have been established. He may have been labeled a "perv" but i think that is not the correct way to catagorize him. I believe that he was rite about the personality stages that way go through in our life but i also believe he had a problem over coming them correctly and built up a fixation. I believe that he never made it through the latency stage and thats why he has such an obsession with his mother.

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  10. Freud is a good man and people know it!!. As Nick said,He came up with many of the starting paths on psychology, and without him psychology wouldn't have been established in the way that it has been. Who cares if he was called a "perv". I'm sure 99 percent of men have been called a "perv" sometime in their life. It's not a big deal. The man was very smart and has come up with theories that no one else would've come up with. Plain and simple. If anyone disagrees, their in denial. =)

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  11. I believe Freud is a huge part of psychology and still affects our practices today. Freud was definately not a fraud because although most of his opinions were conservertial, he had many good points. I especially think that he was on to something with his stages and this proved to be useful for later psychologists. His theories are proved today and many people do not like to agree with them because they are based on sexual activities. But if you dont think about the sex part and focus on the normal part it is true he just adds some creepiness to it. For example I dont agree that we want to sleep with our parents, however i think that the father is an important person for the daughter and vice versa especailly if you are an only child because he or she is the only opposite sex example you have. Also I think that when younger girls are curious about their fathers and boys about their mothers because they are different and most times it is the first "love" relationship you have wiht the opposite sex. Which is a huge weight on how you grow up, most times if you dont have a good experience with your father you are known not to have a good relationship with other males.

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  12. I believe that learning about Freud was time well spent. Freud helped shaped psychology today, and made many interesting points. I believe his techniques of studying dreams, and the stages of development are still very relevant today. The id, ego, and superego are real in my belief and we do have many unconscious desires. I think Freud was a brilliant man and I'm glad we got to learn about him. Although I don't agree with everything he said, he still should be taught. Freud has many followers and his ideas in psychology have helped other scientists to further the exploration of people.

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  13. I believe that his ideas should still be used in modern psych because his ideas were the building blocks for the whole subject, and still are. Most of his ideas make sense, and help explain alot in life.

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  14. I believe that learning about Freud was very useful. Even if you do not agree with what he is saying, it is still interesting to listen to his theories. His theories have opened doors in pshycology to many pschologists. His theories have helped other pshycologists learn more about why people do what they do. Sure some of his theories are very out there, but thats what makes him the pschologist that he was. He causes controversy, and that is what great minds do.

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  15. TJ

    I believe that Frued was not a fraud. Freud is a well renouned psychologist throuhout our psychological history. He was the one who had really started the roots of psychology for psychologists today. This is a huge part, and for someone to bad mouth Frued is just not right. Sure they may disagree with him but there is no reason to call him a fake. the Fuedian theory is just a more complex/erotic way of what others are saying. frued is actually telling us what we are or could be thinking and gives us many valid points. Therefore i believe that Frued and his Fruedian theory are not a fake. In fact, they are Freud.

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  16. I believe Freued was right, alot of people may not really support his sexual theories and im not saying i do either, but how would we have these laws against commiting these taboos if people werent actually doing them prior to the laws being made? There must be a large part of truth in his theories i think people need to deeper look into his theories and be honest with themselves aswell as try to think back to their child hood and try to remember certain things.

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  17. I think Freud's ideas are mistaken. Its absurd to believe that incestuous desires are normal. His ideas are also very unscientific. He misrepepresented the outcome of the majority of his case studies. I think he's only of historical interest at best.

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